Comments on: The Hidden Cost of Hidden Costs http://www.jacksonfish.com/blog/2008/07/21/the-hidden-cost-of-hidden-costs/ Handmade Software Experiences Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:19:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Jeff Yamada http://www.jacksonfish.com/blog/2008/07/21/the-hidden-cost-of-hidden-costs/#comment-59821 Jeff Yamada Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:30:20 +0000 http://www.jacksonfish.com/?p=1431#comment-59821 Awesome post, really enjoyed hearing thoughts so similar to my own articulated so well. Awesome post, really enjoyed hearing thoughts so similar to my own articulated so well.

]]> By: Hillel http://www.jacksonfish.com/blog/2008/07/21/the-hidden-cost-of-hidden-costs/#comment-59797 Hillel Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:23:58 +0000 http://www.jacksonfish.com/?p=1431#comment-59797 @Ben: Thanks for the nice words. You're right, it is hard to convince people of some of this stuff. And in big companies it's difficult as managing at that scale is difficult enough without trying to account for stuff that's hard to see. @Dominic: The conversation was on the Seattle Tech Startup mailing list. @Ben: Thanks for the nice words. You’re right, it is hard to convince people of some of this stuff. And in big companies it’s difficult as managing at that scale is difficult enough without trying to account for stuff that’s hard to see.

@Dominic: The conversation was on the Seattle Tech Startup mailing list.

]]> By: Dominic Hopton http://www.jacksonfish.com/blog/2008/07/21/the-hidden-cost-of-hidden-costs/#comment-59796 Dominic Hopton Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:51:04 +0000 http://www.jacksonfish.com/?p=1431#comment-59796 Whats the startup mailing list? :) Whats the startup mailing list? :)

]]> By: Ben http://www.jacksonfish.com/blog/2008/07/21/the-hidden-cost-of-hidden-costs/#comment-59795 Ben Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:31:05 +0000 http://www.jacksonfish.com/?p=1431#comment-59795 This is one of the best posts about the software business that I have read in a long time. I used to work under Hillel at Microsoft, and I can see now that he tried to practice some of what he preaches in this post when he ran my product. Hillel - what I find interesting is that when you see a hidden cost like this in a large company, you often have difficulty convincing other people to see it. And when they do see it, the problem normally stays. I guess this is part of why Jackson Fish exists, right? This is one of the best posts about the software business that I have read in a long time.

I used to work under Hillel at Microsoft, and I can see now that he tried to practice some of what he preaches in this post when he ran my product.

Hillel - what I find interesting is that when you see a hidden cost like this in a large company, you often have difficulty convincing other people to see it. And when they do see it, the problem normally stays. I guess this is part of why Jackson Fish exists, right?

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